Okay, so I found a car on Craigslist for dirt cheap. The asking price for a 2001 Mustang GT Coupe is 2,800 dollars. The Kelley Blue Book value is almost 8,000 dollars. The guys says the car is sealed at a DSA in West Palm Beach Florida, and he cannot meet face to face with me, because he has a new job in Tuscon, Arizona. Well, already this sounds fishy. So i asked him how this transaction might work? He says that we will use Auto Trader for the purchase, however i called Auto Trader and they said that they do NOT deal with purchases or business transactions. Could he be thinking about another Auto Purchasing company? Is there such things? My next question is, should I give my full name and shipping address to him, just to see what he sends back? Can he sabotage my credit or commit fraud if he has my full name and address? Thanks.
Update:Wow thanks guys. I guess I overlooked where it said something about scams. I am new to Craigslist. I know it seems like I may be gullable, but I would never give my hard earned money to a gambling situation. I was just curious about this. So, any snide comments are not appreciated. Thanks, I am not a dumbass. Just wanted a few opinions.
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100% scam.
There is no car.
There are only stolen pictures of someone else's car.
There is only a scammer trying to steal your cash.
The clues there that you were dealing with a fake seller are:
Crated vehicle in some mysterious warehouse somewhere that no one can see for any reason.
"Seller" located not near his vehicle
Demands you use some third party payment holding company
Car listed way below blue book value
Crappy grammar, misspelled words in "seller's" emails
There are not any Yahoo/ebay/paypal/auto trader escrow services like how that scammer described.
The scammer would have sent you an email from another of his fake names and free email addresses, something like "auto_trader_service @ gmail" and go on to say "kindly send us the Western Union MTCN# and question/answer".
Western Union and moneygram do not verify anything on the form the sender fills out, not the name, not the street address, not the country, not even the gender of the receiver, it all means absolutely nothing. The clerk will not bother to check ID and will simply hand off your cash to whomever walks in the door with the MTCN# and question/answer.Neither company will tell the sender who picked up the cash, at what store location or even in what country your money walked out the door. Neither company has any kind of refund policy, money sent is money gone forever.
Now that you have responded to a scammer, you are on his 'potential sucker' list, he will try again to separate you from your cash. He will send you more emails from his other free email addresses using another of his fake names with all kinds of stories of cheap vehicles, lottery winnings, millions in the bank and desperate, lonely, sexy singles. He will sell you email address to all his scamming buddies who will also send you dozens of fake emails all with the exact same goal, you sending them your cash via Western Union or moneygram.
You could post up the email address and the emails themselves that the scammer is using, it will help make your post more googlable for other suspicious potential victims to find when looking for information.
Do you know how to check the header of a received email? If not, then google for information and learn how. Being able to read the header to determine the geographic location an email originated from will help you weed out the most obvious scams and scammers. Then delete and block that scammer. Don't bother to tell him that you know he is a scammer, it isn't worth your effort. He has one job in life, convincing victims to send him their hard-earned cash.
As you know, whenever suspicious or just plain curious, google everything, website addresses, names used, companies mentioned, phone numbers given, all email addresses, even sentences from the emails as you might be unpleasantly surprised at what you find already posted online. You can also post/ask here and every scam-warner-anti-fraud-busting site you can find before taking a chance and losing money to a scammer.
I'm not saying that it IS a SCAM, but it resembles a very common SCAM run against Americans by people in other countries. (Germany and Nigeria are the primary locations where the SCAMs originate.) I've seen the SCAM run on purchases through eBay, Craig's List and the U.S. Auto Trader sites. Drafts are normally "cleared" through a central bank and may not reach the issuing bank for weeks. The payment is usually via a fraudulent check, which will only be recognized as bad by the originating bank. (long after your dad's bank has released the funds.) Then they will come back to your dad's bank for reimbursement. He would be out his money and his car. (and be investigated by the police to make sure he was a victim and not part of the SCAM.) I'd check with the bank and ask them to check it out COMPLETELY before cashing the check. They will appreciate that fact that you are willing to wait until all doubt about the authenticity of the deal is completed. The "purchaser" will disappear if not legitimate upon hearing that the bank will not release the funds until the draft has cleared the issuing bank. I hope it is a legitimate deal, but only time will tell.
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100% scam - Auto Trader has already confirmed this is a scam. There is only one AutoTrader
And there is no DSA. There is DAS Auto Shippers but they do not seal cars or hold them for any reason. You can call them and they will also confirm they have no 2001 Mustang waiting in West Palm Beach
http://www.dasautoshippers.com/
DO NOT give any information to this person. Do you reallly think someone is going to sell you a car $5000 below list price AND spend $2500 on shipping to get it to you? Of course not. If he's in West Palm he could find any dealer to give him at least $7000 for that car
Why do you think Craigslist has warnings about avoiding ANY transaction involving shipping
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scam...reported as fraud twice to auto trader. They do nothing about it. This dude "jonathan" said he already sold this vehicle which was listed for 14,300 at the time. He said he had a 2013 low miles for 2k. Lo and behold, here is the same car now 13,500. 786-351- 4875 is the # alias jonathan is using at a private seller..very suspicious of auto traders operations
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