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good question. I think we need to remind ourselves and state our rich history, just as blacks and others do.

white people also need to stop being so scared of offending. I see it constantly in this section. when black people, or even native americans, are attacked, they all stand up and defend each other. not whites. they don't seem to give a sh*t. that is disjointed and counter-productive. whites need to stand up and be proud of their revolutionary accomplishments, whether in this forum or in real life. but thev'e been brainwashed to believe 'white pride' is racist or like some kind of supremacist movement, when it can actually be the same as black or hispanic pride.

I think the mental trick is to teach Eurocentric history, rather than the ideal of inclusiveness. This is liberal thought. The overarching theme is that European Culture is one which started after the Fall of the Roman Empire and that this is THE WORLD-STANDARD CULTURE which is responsible for the shape of the world today. What liberals have done is to pretend that other, non-European groups in some way have contributed but their contributions are minimal. Without the Cultural framework in place, we could never have got this far. To illustrate, we only know about Egypt as a previous Culture or Civilization because Western Scientists have studied it! If not for this, people would be like, "Hey, what's the deal with those funny shaped rocks?"

@W ~ After Rome fell, knowledge was lost and had to be relearned during the European Renaissance. After the Fall or Rome, Italy was stagnant until the Risorgomentto. I will say that Rome was always important as the headquarters of the Catholic Church.

P.S. Join the dark side. The grass is way greener.

But I don't think white people really need that. We have MANY different cultures (such as Italian, Irish, Russian etc). That we don't need to have a group Identity. African americans need that because they do not know which country in west africa they came from. So they had to come up with their own culture.

@W- He never said southern europeans weren't white in the question. And in fact I believe the Romans and Greeks were the real 'barbarians'. Looking down on other cultures, and then conquering them. England and Wales were a peaceful and Tribal people. But the Romans morphed them into a imperialistic society. I'm not saying southern europe hasn't given us anything (in fact they have given Europe much of it's culture and heritage), but they have also caused europeans as a whole to be more vicious and imperialistic.

That's a good question. I don't have an answer but that is something that we should all think about. I think we can say we need to be more explicitly white, meaning we need to start to talk about ourselves as being white and that we have our own ethnic interests and cultural heritage.

White people need to step back and see the overwhelming evidence that supports the decency, hard work and family parenting that average whites have done for the last 300 years. It is the exception not the rule that each generation of whites leave the world a better place for their posterity. Most cultures such as Indians, Blacks, Arabs and Asians would live as their ancestors did thousands of years into the past if it were not for the advances overwhelmingly accomplished by whites. Are the ancestors of Black slaves better off now or would they be better off starving in Africa today? Are the ancestors of Indians better off now or would they rather live as they did before Columbus? Life expectancy of perhaps 15 years, starving for months in the spring, freezing for months in winter etc. Are Arab women better off being treated as they were in ancient times and for that matter in modern times with ancient thinking?

IMO, embracing and recognizing one's ethnicity induces more disadvantages than benefits. Psychologically, many people feel like they have to follow a set path in life because of certain racial stereotypes, racial trends, and racial history. The problem with the white liberals you mention is that they recognize their ethnicity, but they feel like they should be punished because of their ancestors' mistakes. Then you have blacks that exert peer pressure on other blacks to conform to a "black" image. Needless to say, there are countless examples of these self-imposed racial limitations for every ethnicity. We should eliminate the concept of race/ethnicity altogether so that we can be freed from its psychological and social baggage.

Nobody denies Europe's rich heritage, but the reason why its not shoved

down peoples throats is because Europe has not always played fair

Europe has stole or lack of a better term "adopted" other cultures since the

beginning then try and give the impression its there own...and so much of Europes

wealth is down to barbaric, and illegal acts of Colonisation ...Europe have mastered

the art of decepetion to its peak sir...study enough history you will also come to that

conclusion

@ paul, are you joking? hahahaha, Europe is responsible for the situation Africa is in

you talk about starving people but isnt it funny how Africa was once seen as the land

of wealth..there were never any recordings of Africa being an impoverished land

before colonisation..just research early explorers journals if you dont beleive me

Africa has always been a harsh environment but it was doing just fine before

European interaction...Like I said Africa was seen as the land of wealth why else

do you think the whole of europe colonised it idiot

Recognize that white culture exists.

when someone says western culture...remind them its white culture. because it is.

when someone speaks of languages and they are speakng english...remind them they are speaking a white language because they are.

there is a lot of talk about accepting other cultures by white liberals.

but what they really do...is appease other people as they are the ones adopting WHITE cultural norms... or more to the point... liberal ideological norms.

if you had millions of white people wearing a daishiki...would you say the daishiki was no longer an african dress? if millions of white people started wearing wafukus would it stop being traditonal japanese dress?

that is a very simplified way to address a large concept... all those other cultures that we are supposed to respect and accept... ARE emulating white culture in almost every way... its not western or modern...its White culture.

the problem is white people are not allowed to say so. thats as far from respect as you can get.

we are supposed to "celebrate" and recognize the tiny minutia of another culture... yet because billions of people speak a white language...its an"international" language.

yeah? so what. its still a white language. say so.

it doesnt seem like something that would address such a problem. But it is really that simple.

just say so... alot of white kids just dont hear that enough, it doesnt even occur to them that they are speaking and living a white culture because we are so accepting of others. the one and only thing they do hear, is how evil they are to everyone else.

we live a white culture every single day... the problem is, so are other non-white people.

but saying so makes you the "same" as all those really evil white people liberals and non-whites make sure white children learn about. It doesnt.

And james.. .maybe i have you mixed with someone else, if so i apologize... But Dont you date interacially? if so you are not "white". you may be biologically but you are amongst and Worse than the disingenuous white liberals you complain about. You are NOT representative of white people..you are NOT a part of white culture and identity.

@W

you say 'Claim everything great as your own, and dismiss everything not so great as inferior, and beneath you."

ah thats the basis of liberal coddling. Who says saying something as being white is the same thing as saying something is great??? How is aying something is not white the same thing as saying something is inferior?

how do you manage to make that translation? who told you this? and why are you putting it on white people?

if YOU think white culture is greater than yours...thats on YOU. its not white peoples job to make you feel better about yourself. thats what liberals may want to do...but thats condescending b.s. that you mistake for equality.

superior and inferior are your words and thought process.

I just like being white and white cultures... I expect you feel the same way about yours.

but when you cry a river that i dont love YOUR culture the way you love MY culture.

you have a problem. not i.

Here's what I think is hilarious about people like you; you like to claim Ancient Romans and the Italian Renaissance (which, obviously it doesn't matter to you that people from BOTH eras considered Northern Europeans barbarians) and other aspects of Southern European history you consider great as "White/European", but I NEVER see you people talk about how things like the Mafia is a "White/European" problem.

No, no that's a problem of the swarthy, backward, Southern Italians. I mean, seriously, that's what White Nationalist and pan-European types are like. Claim everything great as your own, and dismiss everything not so great as inferior, and beneath you.

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@Kingc,

I never said he said Southern Europeans weren't White, I said MANY like him think they're primitive, and backward. That's the perception of modern, Southern Europe. In fact, i was just reading a story about Amanda Knox, and you should have seen the comments - "dark age, wops" is what one of them said. Yeah, it doesn't matter Italy pulled Europe *out* of the Dark Ages.

Also, in a private message to me, earlier, the asker *did* mention he thought Southern Italians had Arab blood.

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As for your opinion about Romans, I don't agree, but I respect it. I would rather someone consider them "barbarians" than try to claim them like the English do ALL the time (even though Roman population in Britain never exceeded 2%, and their cultural influence was negligible).

See, that's why I have respect for the Irish - they're not trying to claim others based on a shared continent. They're interested in their OWN (Celtic) roots (even if they didn't build great civilizations like the Greeks or Romans).

Anyway, like I said, I'm taking a break from this section, so if you want to talking any further, feel free to send me a PM.