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In my opinion he is the closest thing to a communist leader we have had.

Well, being a corporatist doesn't necessarily make one a fascist. Post WW2 in Britain there was little doubt that the government was corporatist, cosying up with businesses and consulting them frequently, but they certainly weren't fascists.

Secondly, Blair was a definite 'third-way' kind of person, starting his 'Private Finance Initiative' scheme. He might have been a troll but he definitely wasn't fascist.

Also, I don't see that Obama is a corporatist at all. You have to appreciate that there was a massive financial crisis which threatened to do the banks and companies in. Obama simply did what was dictated by necessity. It wasn't a necessary component of his political ideology.

We also don't see an authoritarian streak in Obama. He so far hasn't shown himself to want to manically take over power and destroy democracy,

And even if he is a fascist, there's little he can really do to pwn America: Congress as we have seen is not really willing to be that obedient to him, the Supreme Court will readily fire him down if they see him violating the constitution, and then you have the right wing media that hates him. There were none of these mitigating circumstances under Hitler.

So your saying if Obama says the Automobile companies should raise their CAFE standards, that this will lead to police illegally searching homes, spying, torture, denial of habeas corpus, propaganda efforts, executions, targeting particular nationalities to deny them citizenship and eventually get rid of them, and so on?

In fact, it is the reverse, it is the free market puppets like Bush that leads to facism. Bush did all the above, save the latter, which now the right wants to do with 'illegals' or people who look like Mexicans.

But how is this possible, given your definitions of facism? It is not. Your definition of facism and socialism is incorrect, since you have never read or taken any classes (being a Republican, I presume), in these things. The state has long interfered in the market, way before we used words like socialism, fascism, corporatism or whatever. Thus, Benjamin Franklin made the US government head of a Post office and make 'post roads'. Under feudalism, the feudal lord theoretically owned all the economic production on his land. In early capitalism Kings would make corporations, send out explorers, pay for schools and inventors - all this to promote the state. When capitalism industry gained power, religious people were aghast at the living conditions of the poor, and thus invented what were then called communist societies, many in the new world. These societies differed in that they arranged the economic resources to benefit the workers, or held that all people would have to work. And that is the real principle of communism and later socialism, before Lenin took over the language of communism to form his dictatorship. Economic Facism or corporatism was a response from socialism that made the state in the interest of the corporations, not the people.

Today, the word 'facism' largely refers to spying, torture, and a military state, which is kind of where Bush wanted to go, but the Democrats stopped him - mostly.

But when Obama requires that insurance companies not drop people because of existing conditions, he is acting against the corporations, and for the people. That is the act of a liberal. When the Republicans pass a bill that limits the liability of oil companies to a few percent of their monthly income, that is the act of a facist or a conservative. If Obama were to actually make cars, health care, in short, take over the production and distribution of goods and services, then he would be a socialist. But he is not doing that. Nor did Bush turn the entire state over to the corporations. And the number of people tortured under Bush was probably in the hundreds, whereas under facism proper the number can be quite higher. So even if an Obama does have single payer, or Bush tortures a few people, that hardly makes them socialists and facists.

"lets not forget it was the progressives in the 1920's and 1930's that loved Mussolini and Hitler and that FDR's new deal was said by both Mussolini, Hitler, and people in FDR's office to have Fascist ideals incorporated into them."

Would you mind posting a CREDIBLE source for this incredible statement

You should learn how to spell the word. Then perhaps you should consider getting an education. Community College may not be entirely beyond your intellectual reach.

Socialism describes it best. State and worker ownership

What do you mean not?

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