TRUE...... cognizance is but an extention of experiential perception and so is imagination as well.... there can be no experience without consciousness.
subconscious attachment and unconscious experience both enrich ourconscious awarenessenough to allow the awe of wonder to be primary in most understandings that go beyond mere acknowledgement . They may compose recognition. They may discern colligative properties that defy sensibility, yet dreams are tangible and powerfully informative to a consciousness that disciplines itsassessment of the perceptible as considerative of potentials and plausibilities.
Quantum physics suggests a particle can be of a wave motion unless observed, then it adheres to the laws of physical motion.
A fair scientist knows the observation is inconsequential, for the history of a single particle exposes the incomprehension that modeled an understanding---one we must remind ourselves is a means to understand but not to know, as are all agreements of convention between people and not particles.
Your question begs for more definition. Our "consciousness" is what we use to come to an understanding of things. The logical and perceptual abilities of our brain. But essentially everything is "beyond" this consciousness.... Which is locked inside our little skulls.
So.... We can "understand" a great deal of the phenomena around us. We can understand photosynthesis and chemical reactions and the force of gravity and the structure of subatomic particles and a very great deal besides because we have developed methods for testing and observing and measuring these things.
So all of that is "beyond" our consciousness. I submit that the structure of your question is faulty. Likely what you are trying to express (as do so many on this forum) is the notion of "Solilpsism", which is the notion that we can only experience the universe through our own particular consciousness.... Which is essentially true.
Incorrectly framed question, i.e. a logical fallacy similar to one of Zeno's paradoxes.
"Cannot" and "under-stand" is rather better understood as both a present realization, and a potential realization. When the latter occurs, it moves from potential to actual.
"Own consciousness" is likewise an incorrect framing; "consciousness" while individuated is also a present of Mind.
"Beyond" is a metaphor, similar to Plato's Cave allegory; what is the actual, is a "phase change" from one to another awareness.
"True or false" is in this question an example of a false dichotomy. If this is an academic exercise, one might learn more by reframing the question in a clearer fashion, as it is an example of the type of "philosophy" which Wittgenstein found to be a "language game."
Somewhat related, if you're asking this question on your own: "The Path of the Higher Self," "A Philosophy of Universality."
It depends on the type of people. There are people who are really afraid that if they store more and more information, knowledge and expertise, the mind may swell too much and one day explode. This is to be considered a wrong notion. Our mind has immense potentials and it is immeasurable. Mind can do lot of such wonders in positive direction and also in negative direction. We should therefore never underestimate our Mind.
"..."philosophologists", a term coined by Robert Pirsig ("Zen and the Art of Motorcycle Maintenance", "Lila") to denote people who study other people's philosophy but cannot do philosophy themselves. He also says that most people who consider themselves philosophers are actually philosophologists. The difference between a philosopher and a philosophologist is like the difference between an art and aesthetics; one does and the other studies what the other does and theorizes about it."
Generally it is but there are certain things which you must understand. What about the inventions and discoveries? It is true that human beings think like human beings. But to know certain truths they must come out of this state and think.
We are created beings. (The word 'created' is self-explanatory.) That doesn't comes under natural way of life. We are not natural but unnatural beings. I mean we are just robots made of different materials (flesh, bones, tissues etc.,). There are ever existing eternal beings which knew neither death nor birth and God is the chief of these eternal beings. In fact this is the real ever existing phenomena. Some people asks "Who created God?". This is because they think from the state what they are. That's why they are unable to understand the truth.
A human being is always living with a group of spirits which have joined one by one since birth. Between creatures (including human beings) and God there are millions of invisible elements. There are divisions too. We are just robots made of different materials (flesh, bones, nerves etc.,) created by scientist God or eternal beings to entertain God. Each of us have memories like computers have RAM. The fed things (data= knowledge=several spirits or invisible elements) are in contact with the mind since childhood. A brain is a media to connect spirits to a human mind. In fact, all stuff related to a human being lives with a human being in the form spirits. Even thoughts are not our own. One after another the spirits think and we choose (accept) or reject based on the knowledge we have possessed. If current (electricity) stopped the memory loses all data. This is with the computer. The same thing occurs to all of us. Computers are functioning by electric power but human beings are functioning by natural power. We call this as soul. This soul is nothing but simply the functionality of body. If this is stopped our memories lose all data (all spirits or invisible elements). These spirits leave the body and go to different places. No one lives in the form of spirit or anything after death. We are simply our bodies, the toys made for spirits for their games.
There is no hell or heaven for human beings. They are only for spirits. Spirits are separate elements. We are like other creatures except that we have an additional sense (sixth sense). This sense had changed only the living conditions of the human beings but not the fate. The fate is almost same to all creatures including human beings.
It seems a misstatement to me. Are you trying to say, "Humans cannot experience anything other than their own minds."? That, I agree with, if you define us as minds rather than bodies. As far as us understanding anything, I think some people understand their own consciousness, but I don't think anyone understands it very completely. I do think we understand a lot of other things very well e.g. realizing that an object will fall if It is dropped, I would say, is well understood by nearly everyone.
Hi penny dear there is nothing beyond pure consciousness. Understanding is next to knowing. We know manythings but understand certain. Application is with a few. Skillful in those is very rare. But wisdom is final. Becoming wise is possilbe when one is at the pure conscious level. Human system is the evolved system to attain that state of pure consciousness. We have to seek the right chain to cling to the utmost aim
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TRUE...... cognizance is but an extention of experiential perception and so is imagination as well.... there can be no experience without consciousness.
subconscious attachment and unconscious experience both enrich ourconscious awarenessenough to allow the awe of wonder to be primary in most understandings that go beyond mere acknowledgement . They may compose recognition. They may discern colligative properties that defy sensibility, yet dreams are tangible and powerfully informative to a consciousness that disciplines itsassessment of the perceptible as considerative of potentials and plausibilities.
Quantum physics suggests a particle can be of a wave motion unless observed, then it adheres to the laws of physical motion.
A fair scientist knows the observation is inconsequential, for the history of a single particle exposes the incomprehension that modeled an understanding---one we must remind ourselves is a means to understand but not to know, as are all agreements of convention between people and not particles.
Your question begs for more definition. Our "consciousness" is what we use to come to an understanding of things. The logical and perceptual abilities of our brain. But essentially everything is "beyond" this consciousness.... Which is locked inside our little skulls.
So.... We can "understand" a great deal of the phenomena around us. We can understand photosynthesis and chemical reactions and the force of gravity and the structure of subatomic particles and a very great deal besides because we have developed methods for testing and observing and measuring these things.
So all of that is "beyond" our consciousness. I submit that the structure of your question is faulty. Likely what you are trying to express (as do so many on this forum) is the notion of "Solilpsism", which is the notion that we can only experience the universe through our own particular consciousness.... Which is essentially true.
Incorrectly framed question, i.e. a logical fallacy similar to one of Zeno's paradoxes.
"Cannot" and "under-stand" is rather better understood as both a present realization, and a potential realization. When the latter occurs, it moves from potential to actual.
"Own consciousness" is likewise an incorrect framing; "consciousness" while individuated is also a present of Mind.
"Beyond" is a metaphor, similar to Plato's Cave allegory; what is the actual, is a "phase change" from one to another awareness.
"True or false" is in this question an example of a false dichotomy. If this is an academic exercise, one might learn more by reframing the question in a clearer fashion, as it is an example of the type of "philosophy" which Wittgenstein found to be a "language game."
Somewhat related, if you're asking this question on your own: "The Path of the Higher Self," "A Philosophy of Universality."
True.
It depends on the type of people. There are people who are really afraid that if they store more and more information, knowledge and expertise, the mind may swell too much and one day explode. This is to be considered a wrong notion. Our mind has immense potentials and it is immeasurable. Mind can do lot of such wonders in positive direction and also in negative direction. We should therefore never underestimate our Mind.
There is no "their own consciousness"!
There is One Universal Consciousness!
Feelings are thoughts.
'Understanding' is a 'thought/feeling'.
Passing.
Just a feeling...
And philosophy is not about 'right/wrong', that is the judgmental religion, or junior schoolyard fights!
Philosophy is about actual 'thought'!
Philosophy is 'original critical thought';
Critical Thinking
http://www.skepdic.com/ticriticalthinking.html
Bertrand Russell on Critical Thinking
http://www.bu.edu/wcp/Papers/Educ/EducHare.htm
As opposed to the 'scholastic';
"..."philosophologists", a term coined by Robert Pirsig ("Zen and the Art of Motorcycle Maintenance", "Lila") to denote people who study other people's philosophy but cannot do philosophy themselves. He also says that most people who consider themselves philosophers are actually philosophologists. The difference between a philosopher and a philosophologist is like the difference between an art and aesthetics; one does and the other studies what the other does and theorizes about it."
Generally it is but there are certain things which you must understand. What about the inventions and discoveries? It is true that human beings think like human beings. But to know certain truths they must come out of this state and think.
We are created beings. (The word 'created' is self-explanatory.) That doesn't comes under natural way of life. We are not natural but unnatural beings. I mean we are just robots made of different materials (flesh, bones, tissues etc.,). There are ever existing eternal beings which knew neither death nor birth and God is the chief of these eternal beings. In fact this is the real ever existing phenomena. Some people asks "Who created God?". This is because they think from the state what they are. That's why they are unable to understand the truth.
A human being is always living with a group of spirits which have joined one by one since birth. Between creatures (including human beings) and God there are millions of invisible elements. There are divisions too. We are just robots made of different materials (flesh, bones, nerves etc.,) created by scientist God or eternal beings to entertain God. Each of us have memories like computers have RAM. The fed things (data= knowledge=several spirits or invisible elements) are in contact with the mind since childhood. A brain is a media to connect spirits to a human mind. In fact, all stuff related to a human being lives with a human being in the form spirits. Even thoughts are not our own. One after another the spirits think and we choose (accept) or reject based on the knowledge we have possessed. If current (electricity) stopped the memory loses all data. This is with the computer. The same thing occurs to all of us. Computers are functioning by electric power but human beings are functioning by natural power. We call this as soul. This soul is nothing but simply the functionality of body. If this is stopped our memories lose all data (all spirits or invisible elements). These spirits leave the body and go to different places. No one lives in the form of spirit or anything after death. We are simply our bodies, the toys made for spirits for their games.
There is no hell or heaven for human beings. They are only for spirits. Spirits are separate elements. We are like other creatures except that we have an additional sense (sixth sense). This sense had changed only the living conditions of the human beings but not the fate. The fate is almost same to all creatures including human beings.
It seems a misstatement to me. Are you trying to say, "Humans cannot experience anything other than their own minds."? That, I agree with, if you define us as minds rather than bodies. As far as us understanding anything, I think some people understand their own consciousness, but I don't think anyone understands it very completely. I do think we understand a lot of other things very well e.g. realizing that an object will fall if It is dropped, I would say, is well understood by nearly everyone.
Hi penny dear there is nothing beyond pure consciousness. Understanding is next to knowing. We know manythings but understand certain. Application is with a few. Skillful in those is very rare. But wisdom is final. Becoming wise is possilbe when one is at the pure conscious level. Human system is the evolved system to attain that state of pure consciousness. We have to seek the right chain to cling to the utmost aim
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